洋务运动和山寨工业

andyany

以前的国内近代史，有一块是“洋务运动”。洋务运动是中国工业的最早阶段，通过洋务运动，中国有了工业，不过大清还是完了。

改革开放后，假冒伪劣工业逐步发展，最新的叫法是山寨工业。山寨工业不是国内的全部，但对中国发展成为世界第二大经济体的贡献，感觉有相当大的比例。

有个说法是，山寨让中国得到了很大的利益，但中国只得到了馒头，怎么做馒头还是不知道。如果别人不做馒头了，中国还是会饿死。

大家怎么看？

老鹰

有利有弊。不同阶段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在长期。

andyany

老鹰 发表于 2015-10-29 13:48
有利有弊。不同阶段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在长期。

教材对洋务运动的评价是，没有学习西方先进的政治制度，光学习技术是不行的。
联想到山寨工业，整个经营一是偷，二是瞎干，能搞好工业吗？

花弄影

张之洞为了调和清廷统治阶级顽固派和改良派之间的矛盾，系统地总结了自己的洋务实践，把前辈的思想归纳为“中学为体，西学为用”这样一个口号。对照日本的明治维新，就能知道为何最后清王朝灭了，而日本却强大了。意识形态不改，只学工业技术，行不通的。
对照现在，难道真的比洋务运动高明多少？思想保守有过之而无不及。

wangqing1

可别拿制造业侮辱馒头，馒头可是诸葛亮做的，人家可是中国有史以来的大发明家，如果木牛流马能传到今天，连大头爱因，可能都啥也不是

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