转载：外国网友看待中国J15航母起降
本帖最后由 零件工程师 于 2013-7-6 15:31 编辑转载源自中国空军虚航组织
http://bbs.lkyfly.com/thread-20546-1-1.html
首先是英国的网友评论。
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colin ? 2 hours 31 minutes ago
Well that’s one more carrier and one more carrier capable plane than we’ve got.
Well done Dave for scrapping the carriers and Harriers just when we needed them.
一艘又一艘可以起落舰载机的航母超过我们。我们那些官老爷们呢？我们需要航母，可他们却毁灭他们。
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CARVER ? 2 hours 27 minutes ago
more people speak Chinese than in this world owing to the fact that there are more of them than all of the rest of us added together
很快这个世界就会有越来越多的人说中文了，因为他们比我们其他人全部加起来多要多。
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danger_moose ? 2 hours 27 minutes ago
Air-craft carriers are floating death traps, thousands of lives lost and billions of dollars ended by a couple of torpedo's. The only reason China have now acquired one, is that it is a show of a nations might if they have an carrier in their arsenal. Technology in torpedo design has come on leap's and bound's, just one well placed might be able to sink a carrier.
航母就是浮动的棺材，几颗鱼雷就可以击沉这个耗费几千人和数十亿美元的废物。中国搞这个玩意儿的目的就是向世界炫耀他们自己的武器库里也有这个东西了，他们的国家就强大了。现在鱼雷的技术非常厉害，只有放置得当，一颗鱼雷就可以解决这个航母。
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David C ? 2 hours 53 minutes ago
Never mind the end of the world, China will be capable of doing that !
我们不用担心世界末日了，中国将会搞定一切。
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anon ? 2 hours 31 minutes ago
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mr cameron
do you think we might be able to borrow it from them instead of the French
卡梅伦先生
你现在是否在考虑我们可以向中国人借航母了，而不是向法国人呢？
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Walker ? 3 hours ago
A second hand small Russian carrier they got 10 years ago using 80 year old landing technology not high end then
有什么了不起的啊？航母是十年前从俄国佬那儿弄来的，舰载机起降技术是80年前的，我真看不出这有什么好炫耀的。
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CARVER ? 2 hours 22 minutes ago
don't fall into that trap Walker they have the money to buy the expertise and any darn thing that they want they have the power to ruin any economy that they wish
how many things do you have in your hose that says made in china stamped on it?
别扯这没用的。中国人有的是钱，他们可以买到任何他们感兴趣的东西，他们有能力控制整个世界的经济。
你回去看看，就你家里一个小小的水龙头，看看是不是中国制造的。
接着是阿三网友
David
Whats the big deal, so called corrupt sonia landed her plane on the roof of White House. Dont under estimate corrupt congress President.
又怎么样？就算是腐败的索尼娅把她的飞机降落在白宫屋顶上又怎么样。不要低估那些国大党的腐败程度。
one that knows
Bad news for indian
Soon china will strike
对于印度来说真是个坏消息啊。
中国很快就要进攻了。
Doesn't matter. India already had the aircraft carriers decades ago.
没关系。印度十年前就拥有航母了。
? naxus
And Chiness came to disclose this matter to you, that indian army software is hacked and we can do bombarding any where in India
中国人根本就不会让印度人明白，印度所有的军方软件都被黑掉了，他们可以随心所欲地轰炸印度任何地方。
? Pi
We will invite U.S aircraft carriers to garrison in India.
我们可以邀请美国的航母来帮助防卫印度。
by Communal Award (View MyPage)
China prospered without India's dummy democracy/caste system.
Indians are brainwashed to believe that "voting in elections = democracy".
中国如此繁荣就是因为没有那***民主和种姓制度。
印度人都被洗脑了，因为他们相信选票可以带来一切。
Re: Be realistic
by Mar Thoma
India and China are in different level.Lankans need not worry abt that!
Maybe ur country got some heip from china.so u are showing ur loyalty.(like a Slumpig)
印度和中国根本是不同层次的。你个区区斯里兰卡就别操心了。
也许你们国家从中国那儿得了好处和帮助。所以你像个哈巴狗一样跑来向主子表忠心了
by Suresh Babu
An Indian Engineer who was working in a company in Gujarat (GIDC, Makarpura) have gone to chian during 2000 and worked there till 2010. Now that man is an industrialist after working of 10 years in chian. That means in china salary/wage is far more better than in India. In fact in china wage is 25 times more than in India. This is 100% correct because one of my brother is working in gulf country since 1980. Recently he told that when he went gulf there were chinese people working in several firm and that too equal numbers of keralites in gulf. Now he says that there is no chinese people working in gulf because of the development in china. I am asking rediff where is the development in India?
一位在塔塔公司的前工程师曾经在200年到2010年在中国工作。在中国工作十年后，他现在是一位实业家。这意味着中国的工资和收入远远超过印度。事实上中国的工资是印度的25倍。这点100%正确，因为我的一个兄弟1980年的时候在海湾国家工作过。他告诉我，1980年的时候，海湾国家到处都是中国人，他们为了挣钱远离故土。但现在他看不到一个中国人了，因为他们都回国了，因为国内的收入比他们在海湾挣得还多。我现在想问，印度这些年可曾有任何的发展吗？
by mashokan
strength matteres, this is what chinese showing us. they believ in strength and time to time they are showing it. this is a point we must understand it in correct perception. in our case we are afraid of everything that includes, pakistan,srilanka,maldives,burma, bungladesh, bhutan. these countries are our nighbours and understand our weeknesses and taking undue advantage about the prevailing situation in around our country. these countries would have annexed us the strength and power which we have today.that is why the entire world is calling us a soft power.
有实力才是老大。这就是中国一直在做的。他们相信实力，他们不断地展示自己的肌肉。这点我们必须要正确理解。我们印度太胆小怕事了，所以所有的邻居都欺负我们，包括巴基斯坦，斯里兰卡，马尔代夫，缅甸，孟加拉国，不丹。他们知道我们的弱点，他们善意利用这些弱点来欺负我们。这些国家总有一天会蚕食掉我们。这就是为什么整个世界都称印度为兔子的原因。
下面是美国网民的
three8s ?
Look underneath says made in america batteries not included
注意看飞机和航母的下面，你会发现美国制造几个小字，当然不包括电池了
tim ?
More stolen technology
全部都是偷的。
gary ?
"It's a very interesting development. It shows how rapidly they're moving ahead."
A big "thank you" should go towards the U.S. from China. After all, they did hack into our military and defense secrets.
?非常有意思的进步。这显示了中国是如何飞跃的。
我认为他们应该对美国说声谢谢，因为没有美国慷慨地让他们黑客盗窃我们的技术，他们绝对不可能做到这些。
david ?
If it is stamped : "Made in China" we have nothing to fear.
如果J15上面写着中国制造，那么我们就放心多了。
davidb ?
Something wrong here! The picture doesnt show the landing gear down as described in the article. This pic. looks hookey!!! Ck. the background;looks a bit like a model in a studio to me.
我觉得是假的。这个图片看起来很假。而且背景就像是在电影工作室里搞出来的一样。
BlackConservative ?
Is it made of plastic and marked MADE IN CHINA?
是塑料做的，然后喷上中国制造？
raymond ?
all thanks to clinton and the Republican congress--couldn't have done it without you!
感谢克林顿和共和党的议会啊，不然中国人绝对干不了这些事。
Son of a Son of a Sailor ? The one pictured looks an awful lot like one of Russia's stealth fighters. 怎么看起来那么丑哦，就像俄国的技术一样。
Hctib ?
We should sell them some cheap chinese scrap steel.
我们应该多卖些减价的中国废钢铁给他们。
Page ?
So, I wonder who is threatening china so much that they need to buy only thebest technology,,or is it just that theyve got the money and need to waste it?
我真不明白谁能给中国那么大的威胁以至于他们要花那么多钱搞这些高技术的东西。也许他们就是闲钱太多了，没处花搞来玩玩。
phil ?
looks like they hacked our military computers again.....
看来他们又一次成功黑掉了我们的军用计算机了。
JohnsL ?
So they have stealth technology. Big deal. They've had it since their j20 which came out years ago.
这么说他们又一次偷了我们的技术。他们老这么干，从几年前的歼20开始就这样了
Juan ?
just remember the girl singing in olympics held in china....definitely you know what i mean.
还记得中国在奥运会开幕式上唱歌那个小女孩吗，你就知道我什么意思了。
Houyhnhnm ?
Yeah, when the plane flies overhead, you hear its lip-synched exhaust.
呵呵，当这个飞机飞过你头上的时候，你会说那都是幻觉而已。
鬼子网友
2012/11/24(土) 10:18ヤフコメ职人拾六号机（syo...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う252点私はそう思わない13点
そのうち大事故が発生するだろうなw
感觉会有什么大事要发生的样子
2012/11/24(土) 10:24tom*at*tom*at*（tom...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う185点私はそう思わない14点
次は【初の着舰失败炎上による消火活动】だね
明天就会听到首次着舰失败，发生火灾的报道了吧。
2012/11/24(土) 10:18NAKA-G（yg_...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う119点私はそう思わない2点
これで、先进国の仲间入りしたと勘违いするなよ
好了， 这下总该承认自己是发达国家了吧？
2012/11/24(土) 10:21NAKA-G（yg_...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う106点私はそう思わない1点
着舰训练より、沈没した时の避难训练をしたほうがいいぞ
我觉得比起着舰训练，还是多花点儿时间搞些沉没时的避难训练才是正事吧
2012/11/24(土) 10:32hinemosu（tom...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う51点私はそう思わない3点
波の静かな所でやっと着舰が出来たのか？
そんなに嬉しいか？中国のパイロットの
技术とはこんなものなのか？程度低いな！
拉倒吧，大海里怎么可能连波浪都没有啊，这么安静着舰谁不会啊。
简直是好笑哦。中国的飞行员技术那么低，能做到吗？
2012/11/24(土) 10:35mot**city*89*（mot...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う33点私はそう思わない3点
この空母の建造费以上のODAを日本は支出している
累计3兆円に上る支出と中国军备拡张に対し
我が日本の外务省はどう考えているのか
日本の外务省は中国の犬に成り下がったのでは?!
这艘航母的建造费用完全是用的日本支出的ODA，累计3兆日元，都拿给中国用作军备扩张了。日本的外务省不知道是怎么想的。日本外务省完全是中国的走狗。
2012/11/24(土) 10:35紫电改 空の勇者（tom...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う19点私はそう思わない0点
成功したパイロット１人だけかよ。
就算成功又怎样，也就一个人可以做到而已
2012/11/24(土) 10:47Falcon77（gpp...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う18点私はそう思わない0点
発舰より着舰の方が难しいはずなのにな！
ぜひ动画をあげてくれ！
着舰那么复杂，难度那么大，根本就不可能做到。
肯定是动画搞出来的。
012/11/24(土) 10:28y_y*y*chi66（y_y...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う17点私はそう思わない0点
强度があるのは最初だけ。
沈没したら皆、
?ああ、中国制だもんな…?と思う。
第一艘的质量肯定是最好的了，余下的嘛，都会沉没吧。毕竟是中国制造啊
baggio670218（tak...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う11点私はそう思わない2点
ちなみに、この空母の获得资金は日本からの中国ODAや黄砂対策费から贿われております。
这艘航母的建造资金绝对是从ODA和黄沙治理费里面挪用的。
2012/11/24(土) 10:49やすくん（ynb...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う6点私はそう思わない0点
沈没すると思う。
我觉得就要沉没了
2012/11/24(土) 12:22tom*at*tom*at*（tom...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う4点私はそう思わない0点 もしかして…
舰载机20数机の内、1机しか着舰に成功しなかったのか
あとは海にドボンと
舰载机总共20多架，就一架成功降落了，其余的都在海里喂鱼呢。
2012/11/24(土) 10:24壁のレンガは白色（fif...）さん
削除/违反报告私もそう思う5点私はそう思わない0点
甲板上に戦闘机を荷降ろす训练の成功ですか。
有本事弄满载的，空载算个屁哦。
继续美国。
sagebrsh ? 8 hrs ago
China's warning to the U.S. is why I'd like to see ALL of our industry leave that country.
这是中国对美国的警告啦。不过我倒乐意见到我们所有的工业都纷纷离开那个国家。
C ? 8 hrs ago
Patriot.........you sound like the fat cats that hate paying their taxes. So no unions or benefit packages for workers? You want them to work minimum wage with no perks whatsoever? Sounds greedy to me.
楼上的，你就像那位何不食肉糜的皇帝。你的意思是大幅削减福利和工资？都拿低保？你想让大家都回到旧社会？你真是太贪婪了。
Brian ? 8 hrs ago
Sagebrush -- As transportation costs and the standard of living rises in China we will see an increasing number of businesses return to the U.S. It is happening now as we speak...
大家别担心。随着运输费用和生活水平的提高，我们很快就会看见大量的企业返回到美国。实际上这正在发生着。
Ernesto G ? 8 hrs ago
Ye all see this: American foreign policy is as broken as its border in the south. It is based on double standards and hypocrisy. The Chinese are clearly CAPITALIZING on these.
美国的对外政策就像我们南部边界一样支离破碎。全部都充满了双重标准和高高在上不切实际。中国才是真正的资本主义啊。
MarkL ? 7 hrs ago
clearly, allowing China to rise was an economic and military strategy to open new markets and counterbalancerussia's military. Driven by greed on one side and fear on the other. Now China will be a threat to both USA and Russia. It's hunger for energy, food, raw materials will surpass it's business agreements and its ability to control their military aggressions. over the nest 20 years the US decline will continue since it is moving more towards a socialist structure. The US military will have no choice but to decline in a declining economy. The balance of power will slowly shift to the next economic powerhouse, China. When the US dollar finally collapses there will be war with the east. Chances are that it will be a desperate battle first to preserve financial control and finally to preserve the country. Invasion is not out of the question. Remember China has 200 million men of military age and over the next 20 years will be developing their blue water navy and that includes troop transports.
平心而论，允许中国强大起来是基于两方面的考虑，一方面是为了开拓广阔的市场，另一方面是为了平衡抑制俄国佬。可是我们一方面为此获利，另一方面却打开了潘多拉的盒子。现在中国已经成为美国和俄国的威胁。中国对能源，食物和原材料的极度渴望以及贪婪已经远远超越了其贸易准则和对军事力量的控制。今后20年美国还会继续衰落，整个世界将会持续向左转。美军的力量也会随着经济的衰退而衰退。整个世界的军事实力将会被中国这个超级大国所支配。当美元最终崩溃的时候，一场战争就在所难免了。最开始会是经济和贸易战，然后就演变成保家卫国的热战。中国的入侵是肯定的。要记住中国拥有2亿适龄当兵的年轻人，而且用了20年来发展他们的蓝水海军和机动运兵能力。
dwale ? 7 hrs ago
Allowing?? Who is doing the allowing??
允许中国富起来？谁有这个权利？
Loki ? 9 hrs ago
A former Soviet ship, built in the Ukraine, operated by the Chinese - for the first time? What possibly could go wrong with that??
一艘前苏联的船，在乌克兰建造，中国人来操控，这是第一次吗？
这里面是不是有什么阴谋哦？
CrappleSmacka ? 8 hrs ago
be careful or they might start landing helicopters on it to. maybe install a machine gun or two
小心哦，他们可能会开始起降直升机了。还可能会安上一两架机关枪呢
vinnie ? 8 hrs ago
with that, they can still beat the philipines, vietnam, japan, cambodia, myanmar . etc etc. they dont have to beat the usa, just their weaker neighbors who cant afford anything except used american destroyers. from ww2
就算只有机关枪，他们仍然可以打败菲律宾，越南，日本，柬埔寨，缅甸等国。他们没必要来攻打美国，他们只想收拾那些不听话的邻居，那些邻居除了一大堆美国二战时期淘汰下来的旧武器就什么都没有了。
claude ? 8 hrs ago
I think it was built by china for the ukirane years age but was never finished, now china finished it for themself.
我觉得是中国把乌克兰没有完成的事情做完了。那艘航母从来就没有造完过，是中国自己把她弄完了
ls ? 8 hrs ago
what worries me is that these people won against us without guns back in the 50s...some of them had pistols...they would pick up guns from the fallen soldiers on the ground and keep attacking. That's what I call brave.
让我真正担心的是这些将会成为我们敌人的中国人50年代（朝鲜战争）的时候连像样的武器都没有，他们只有几把小米加步枪。他们在战场上前赴后继，毫不畏死，接过倒下战友的枪就向上冲。这就是我说的勇敢。
Kenneth Lee ? 8 hrs ago
Ls, they didn't exactly win against us. Open up a history book.
楼上，他们并没有打败我们（朝鲜战争），好好去学习一下历史吧。
sarfraz ? 8 hrs ago
copy maker
山寨王。
Seapath ? 8 hrs ago
Vinni As we are allies of Japan and the Philippines is a US protectorate. I seriously doubt that China would attack them. It would mean we would come to their defense and that would be a war which China does not want.
要知道日本是我们的盟友，而菲律宾是我们的马仔。我真心不信中国会攻击他们。如果中国胆敢攻击，那么美军就会出动，那么中国就会同美国开战，这是中国不愿见到的
CapSpaulding ? 8 hrs ago
Loki - Here's what could go wrong: The Chinese will keep getting better and better at modern warfare.....and all that that implies. Do you think we could take on China??? We can't even finish off the Arabs......
你有没有搞错哦？中国过去在战场上都不弱，现在只会越来越强。所有的证据都证明了这一点。你真的认为我们打得赢中国吗？看看我们在中东的表现吧，连那些阿拉伯人都搞不定】
Bill ? 8 hrs ago
Ls That wasn't brave, if they didn't do it they would be executed. Besides that was in Korea, a very limited war. We didn't lose we just didn't want to make a parking lot out of N Korea and China.
那不叫勇敢好不好，那些中国如果不向上冲，他们会被枪毙。我不认为朝鲜战争说明什么问题，那是一场非常有限的战争。我们并没有输，只不过我们最终不想在北朝鲜和中国搞什么停车场而已。
Joey V ? 8 hrs ago
Vinnie,any country invading another will have to be willing to take losses themselves.The US didnt have the stomach to sustain anymore losses in vietnam n they withdrew..China invaded vietnam and after sustaining massiive losses,they also withdrew.I bet you if that carrier was sunk by a lucky shot from antiquated weapons of the opponents,it will cause a gigantic loss of face for china...1 modern kamikaze will be devastating.
任何国家一旦对别国发动进攻，就一定预先估计了自身的损失而且也愿意承担。美国在越战撤退就是因为无法承担更多的损失。中国也入侵了越南，但他们损失惨重，最终也撤退了。我敢打赌，如果中国的航母被哪个对手击沉了，那么中国一定会被激怒。那么一场世界大战甚至核战就在所难免了。
Shaw ? 7 hrs ago
SeaPath, the Chinese are becoming a force not to be reconed with. At this time we may be able to still beat them, however that won't last long. We are a dying empire, like pre-WWI England. The only reason they can't beat us at this time is due in no small part to the military spending from Republican leadership. But we are in insurmountable debt and our fate is sealed and another nail is added to the coffin everytime they pass a new Quantitative Easing bill or raise the debt sealing to infinite levels. Well, I'm going to go see the new Red Dawn movie and get ready for the coming war between the U.S. and China. No one wants it but it yet seems unavoidable.
中国正在成为一个超级强大的力量，这是无法阻挡的。我们现在也许还有能力打败他们，但这种日子没有几天了。我们是一个垂死的帝国，就像二战前的日不落帝国。现在之所以他们还不能打败我们是因为共和党的领导下军队还能得到最低程度的经费保证。但我们很快就要破产了，我们的命运已经决定了，每一个新法案的通过，每一次增税的决定，都是一颗颗钉在我们棺材上的钉子。我准备去看看新一版的赤色黎明，先做好同中国决战的准备。尽管大家都不愿看到，但这是不可避免的。
Bud ? 7 hrs ago
It's always a good idea to never underestimate a potential enemy. The Chinese may make junk, but they make a lot of it.
我也认为永远不要小瞧和低估我们的对手。中国人的确可能制造垃圾，但他们制造了很多的垃圾。
Beyer ? 5 hrs ago
Huh! No, we want to rule the world, and we think that others think like us. Case in point: China does not plan to set up military bases in other countries and does not get oil and gas through wars (they pay for them actually).
我们总想统治世界，总是一厢情愿认为别人都跟我们想的一样。比如：中国绝不会在海外发展军事基地，他们不需要通过军事手段来获得石油和天然气（他们付钱买）
JE ? 5 hrs ago
No carrier is safe if they launch or shoot a missile running about 50 feet off of the water. I don't believe there is any truly capable weapons system we possess
weapon that we [possess that can shoot one down as soon as it pops up over the horizon.
没有哪个航母能够经得起一颗飞行高度在50英尺以下导弹的攻击。我不认为有任何防御系统能够防得住飞行高度如此低的导弹。
War Dog 666 - U ? 4 hrs ago
You are correct, no ship on the high seas is safe from sea skimming missiles - they're virtually impossible to defend against, just imagine six or more ship killing missiles headed toward you - YOU'RE FINISHED!
楼上说的对，没有什么舰艇能够防得住从水面上飞过去的导弹。这是无法防御的。想想有六枚或者更多的导弹向你飞过去的场景吧，你就等死吧。
pilotrod ? 4 hrs ago
They should name it, thanks US labor unions, for making us totally noncompetitive in the world market place. I bet you will soon be able to buy a twinkie made in China, can't wait to see how the unions take care of the 18000 jobless hostess employees.
我觉得中国的航母应该取名为“感谢美国工会”号，要不是美国工会，他们才不可能在世界市场上那么有竞争力呢。我打赌很快你就能在市场上买到中国制造的奶油蛋糕了，然后看看咱们的工会是如何对待那些失业的18000名蛋糕店服务员吧。
Not the average fool ? 4 hrs ago
Pilotrod your right. When I read Craftsman tools are now Chinese made, that killed all hope for me!
你们都说的很对啊。当我看到就连我们的五金工具（钳子，扳手）都是中国制造的时候，那一刻我真是彻底绝望了
matt t ? 3 hrs ago
heyhombre the bakers union at hostess makes "0" the union and there greed put them out of a job. all those lazy union people deserve what they got.just too bad they took down another company with them.time to wake up people
那些狗屁的工会都是白痴，只会让人们不断地失业。那些加入工会的人罪有应得。他们只会让一个又一个公司破产。是时候清醒了啊人们！
jeff g ? 3 hrs ago
is it a cold war for them to have one carrier? and why do we act like its such a big deal when we spend hundreds of billions more than them?
现在还是冷战时刻吗？不就是一艘航母吗？我们花费数以万亿比他们多得多的钱在军事上，为什么没人指责呢？
ls ? 8 hrs ago
well, considering that they didn't even have guns for their soldiers a few decades ago, this is amazing. BTW, they still won against us without guns.
你说的对，不过想想几十年前他们的士兵甚至没有像样的枪，这就有意思了。顺便说一下，他们即使没有枪也能打败我们
Detritus of Sloth ? 8 hrs ago
it shows all the liitle countries on the pacific rim they can bring a war to their front yard if they don't get what they want. Yes it's a big deal.
这件事说明如果不给他们足够的支援，那么太平洋那些小国随时会遭受入侵。我觉得军售的好时机到了。
Jakobzbombz ? 8 hrs ago
I agree Edwin. One Carrier and one jet? I wish my job was that easy when I was active duty. Show of force is more like 3 Carrier battle groups parked off your coast.
我同意楼上所说的。仅仅是一艘航母和一架飞机而已。我倒希望我们真的就这么轻松简单就好了。真正的秀肌肉那是至少要停泊三艘航母在你家门口，那才是呢。
Bubba ? 7 hrs ago
We can continue to blame the president for China's enhanced military powers, but I know of this company named Apple and they provide lots of money to China.Apple is just one of the many thousand of providers to China. Many of you support China. Please don't act as if you don't know what I am talking about. The more you purchase from China the more they have to enhance thier military.
我们不断地指责总统，指责他给了中国太多的机会来增强他们的军事实力。可是我们知不知道有一家叫做苹果的公司，这个公司给了中国无数的金钱。而苹果只是无数的中国支助者的一个。他们全部都支持中国。你们别假装不知道我在说什么。你购买中国制造越多，你就越增强了他们的军事实力。
Alex Wilson ? 7 hrs ago
yahoooooozr, you need to get back on your meds. current Chinese military budget: $100 billion. current US military budget (2012): $700+ billion! yeah, we should be shaking in our boots right now......okay, NOT!
你们这帮白痴，你们清醒一点好吗？中国今年的军费开支只有一千亿美元。而美国今年是七千亿以上。看到这个数据，你们从头凉到脚吧。
JOHN R ? 7 hrs ago
The us military is to expensive to be enlarged. the corruption alone could take 40 per cent of the budget .too many chief and very expensive Indians
o 美国的军队太费钱了，很难有发展的空间。腐败起码吞噬了40%的预算。军队里充斥了太多官老爷，还有非常贵的印第安人。
Steven ? 7 hrs ago
@fannish--it is not the retailers bankrolling these wars, it is the big banks, and they bankroll bothsides, it is big business, they like wars.
普通的百姓并不喜欢战争。挑起战争的是银行，他们资助战争双方，这是笔很大的买卖，他们喜欢打仗。
peter ? 7 hrs ago
Yes, but it wasn't an F-18. Don't worry though, at least not for the near-term. China's economy will come crashing down with the dollarand the Euro. Their 4 trillion plus in Dollarand Euro reserves will buy nothing, their export machine will fail, and the economy will collapse. It will take them decades to recover from what the US and Europe is about to do to them.
好吧，就是那架飞机不是F-18。但也不要担心，至少近期不用担心。中国的经济正在崩溃，RMB撑了不几天了。他们的四万亿债务买不到任何东西，他们的出口将会崩溃，整个经济也会崩溃。他们将需要数十年的时间来恢复美国和欧洲给他们造成的伤痛。
art ? 7 hrs ago
anyway china can fly without an airplane..just see a movie from chinese karate..lol..
不管如何，中国人不需要飞机也能飞。看看那些描写中国功夫的电影吧。
Jake ? 7 hrs ago
And America made TVs back in the 1940s, way before China. Now America doesn't make TVs anymore because China does it way better.
美国1940年发明生产了电视，那时中国在干什么？可现在呢，美国造不出一台电视，因为中国造的更好
Dave ? 6 hrs ago
I think the comments are funny in our attempt of disproving their aircraft. instead of applauding them for their effort to complete a piece of machinery, we're too self-centered to care Instead we bash on other countries by saying we're better. holy #$%$, we're being left in technology dust and we just others when they're better than us, dont we?
我觉得这些评论简直可笑之极，我们只会一味贬低指责他们，而不是祝贺他们取得的巨大成就。我们太自以为是了，只认为自己最好，别人都不行，固步自封。天啦，殊不知我们早已落后了，现在是别人更好，而不是我们，明白吗？
Jocko ? 6 hrs ago
Dave are you suggesting that the Chinese are better at invention, military hardware, or otherwise generally better? Human rights maybe. Individual freedom. Fewer genocides? I suggest you spend a few weeks in Chinba. We look forward to your report.
楼上，你是不是在说中国在发明创造，军事硬件和别的方面都超过了美国？我觉得人权方面也许他们更好吧，还有自由和种族灭绝方面。我建议你去一趟中国，在那儿带上几周。我们期待你的旅行见闻。
copy cat
by abc xyz (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:02 AM | Hide replies
J15 looks exactly like Su-33.
歼15看起来很像苏33啊
Re: copy cat
by indranil chindhade (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:25 AM
chinese are best at copying others modern technologies,most of their hi tech weapons are copies of US or russian weapons with violation of intellectual property rights.
中国最善于山寨，他们的很多高科技都是从别的国家比如美国和俄罗斯山寨过来的，而且他们肆意违反国际版权法。
Re: Re: copy cat
by nithesh (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:32 AM
Without knowing the facts, dont make sweeping statements.. In 10 years rest of the world will be copying China..
Western media is trying to tarnish China and always give negativbe statements on China..
The fact is, in 10 years China will be the no.1 super power.. US and other developed countries will have to follow China, just like other countries following US now..
你们什么也不知道，就别乱下结论了。十年以后，整个世界都要山寨中国。
西方媒体一直都在故意贬低中国，他们只关心关于中国的负面报道。
10年以后，中国将成为世界第一的超级大国。美国和其他发达国家只配当小弟，就像其他国家现在追随美国一样。
Re: Re: Re: copy cat
by madhusoo dana rao (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 11:43 AM
Whats wrong in copying?
But you should how to copy too!! And the Chinese are masters in it. For them R&D stands for Replication and Duplication.
Instead of criticizing India should learn a few lessons from Chinese.
Most of the Indian defense personals do not want Indian weapons , as they want to buy them cheap from foreign sellers and pocket good commissions. The sabotage of the Arjuntank by the Indian Army is best example.
山寨有什么不好吗？
你要山寨也得有山寨的技术啊，中国就是这方面的祖宗。他们懂得山寨的一切门道，看一眼就能模仿。
印度应该多向中国学习，而不是酸溜溜地挖苦。
很多印度国防部的人并不想使用印度国产武器，他们喜欢从国外买然后吃回扣，阿琼坦克就是一个例子。
Re: copy cat
by piri (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 12:03 PM
indians do not even know how to copy!
They tried to copy the Russian T 90 in the Arjun MBT (Mark 1 and Mark 2). But they could succeed only partially and this resulted in a much heaviertank (the Arjun Mark II weighs 66 tons against the T 90s 40 tons).
The DRDO tried to compensate by increasing the thickness of the armour and this resulted in thetank's weight increasing to 66 tons. Besides lesser maouvreability on the field due to such a heavy weight, the Arjun also needs a much more powerful engine to match the T 90s speed and acceleration and this too remains an issue!
Due to these problems, the Indian army has been lukewarm to the Arjun and is going ahead with the purchase of hundreds of new T 90s!
Copying of high tech equipment also needs a lot of technical knowhow and in this, Indian establishments sure lag the Chinese by miles!
印度人甚至不懂得如何山寨。
他们试图山寨俄罗斯的T90坦克，结果造出来的阿琼MBT只是似是而非，重量比T90重了几个级别。阿琼试图增加防御钢板的厚度，结果整体重了66吨。这样做的后果是需要更为强大的引擎来驱动这个大怪物，速度和机动性比起T90也差了不少。
因为这些问题，印度军队最终放弃了这个怪物，转而购买了大量的T90.
山寨也是门技术，也需要知识和本事。印度在这方面落后中国太多太多。
WeeWee ? 55 minutes ago
i would'nt call having a carrier fleet a defence system.
it is almost as if you went out to get a bugatti and told your pals you just need a car to go pick up your groceries and kids.
but again, if one can afford it why not? it is going to cost a hefty amount to maintain that fleet , another level of spending compared to conventional defence budget.
the risk of having such big toy is the constant lure it present to the owner not to have a live test against it's capability . again something that took big excuse to.
我从来不认为航母能在国防方面起什么作用。
就像你只需要运送一些杂物和小孩子，你却出去叫了一辆布加迪。
不过话又说回来，如果你钱多的花不了，那么叫一辆布加迪也没什么。航母这个东西很贵的，需要花费大量的金钱来维持其运行，比传统的防守方式费钱多了。
而这个昂贵的玩具带给其主人的另一个诱惑是，它是个吸血鬼，不断地要你往里面砸钱，不断要你升级装备和外挂，直到你破产为止
Ah Beng ? 2 hours 41 minutes ago
If China is like 200 years ago, there will be war. Everyone will declare war with them. With more military might, it deters war. History has proven that. So China, please build more. The more they build, it ensured peace for 1/5 of the world's population. History has also proven China has never invaded others before.
如果中国还是200年前那样虚弱好欺负，那么战争早就爆发了。每个人都会同中国宣战。但如果你更为强大，那么你就可以遏制住战争。历史无数次地证明了这点。所以中国请更强大些吧。你们越强大，就可以保证世界1/5的人口的和平。历史证明，中国以前从来没有侵略过任何国家。
Indy ? 2 hours 33 minutes ago
Jan, don't propagate western prejudices on this post. China has never invaded Tibet! Tibet has been part of China since the Yuan dynasty. Pls check your facts before providing your opinion.
你们不要被西方的宣传给蒙蔽了。中国从来没有入侵过西藏。西藏从元朝开始就属于中国了。请张嘴之前多读点书吧。
Jack ? 1 hour 58 minutes ago
@Ah Beng, i guess you failed your history & geography in school. History has also proven China has never invaded others before? Are you joking?
Go read up history books on various dynasties - 夏,商,西周东周,春秋战国,秦,汉,三国,西晋东晋,十六国,南北朝,隋,唐,五代十国, 南北宋,辽,西夏,金,元明,清,中华民国,中华人民共和. Wars is also part of China history till today.
Tii today PRC still had territorial disputes with its neighbouring countries, India, Vietnam, Philippine, Nepal, Japan, Taiwan. I recall PRC signed some sort of pacts with Russia & N.Korea years ago to settle their territorial disputes by giving up some lands to them.
Is Tibet part of China before the Yuan dynasty? Who builded the Yuan dynasty? The Hans tribe or the Mongolian? After you took something from others by force & later you claimed it as yours, is that the right thing to do? This is conqueror is the keeper theory.
楼猪，你傻了吧，居然说中国从来就没有入侵过任何国家。我猜你的地理和历史老师都死光了吧。历史无数次的证明中国就是个侵略成性的国家。
看看历史书吧，中国的朝代数十个，个个都是通过战争获得的土地，中国的历史就是战争的历史。
直到今天，中国任然跟几乎所有的领国有领土争端，包括印度，越南，菲律宾，尼泊尔，日本，台湾。我记得中国几年前才通过割让部分领土的方式同俄罗斯和北朝鲜签订了协定解决了其领土纠纷。
西藏在元朝之前属于中国吗？谁建立的元朝？是汉人还是蒙古人？你从别人手里抢过来的东西，然后你宣布这属于你的，这世上哪有这样的道理？这是赤裸裸的强盗逻辑。
说实话，相比评价，我更想知道J15究竟是个什么水平。 zerowing 发表于 2013-7-6 15:48 static/image/common/back.gif
说实话，相比评价，我更想知道J15究竟是个什么水平。
相比评价是要和谁比？和Su33的话，航电要好。 zerowing 发表于 2013-7-6 15:48 http://bbs.cmiw.cn/static/image/common/back.gif
说实话，相比评价，我更想知道J15究竟是个什么水平。
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-955706-1-1.html
可以看看这个，喝茶吹水的好地方。 这些评论有意思 困了。。。 老外一如即往的自以为是，总认为自己天下第一，同样他们也有COPY中国的产品 笑死挺有意思的，他们说的不一定是事实，但一定代表了他们国家平民的心声，其实底层文化之间的了解才能化解不必要的误会 两个字，干他
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